ESB:Proposals/Banning all profanity

	Proposal Archive The following proposal has been discussed and is now marked as resolved. The page has been protected and now serves as an archive. Do not edit this page. Date Resolved: 30th August 2020 Result: Moved to voting

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Proposal

I propose that we ban all profanity including, but not limited to, the c word, the h word, and the d word. Profanity, regardless of the situation, is unacceptable and SpongeBob would never use such words. Blubabluba9990^M·C·E

Concerns

Created concern: Have you actually watched the show?

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These extremely minor and tame profane words have been used in SpongeBob. For example, “damn” is used in the SpongeBob Movie. Therefore, your argument is invalid. --The gamer 987654321 (talk) 17:06, August 22, 2020 (UTC)

I have seen that movie twice and never was the d word said. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blubabluba9990 (wall • contribs). Remember to sign your posts with ~~~~

here https://youtu.be/1lWkDjGDVks?t=25 GuyBesideYou3^M·C·E 19:19, August 22, 2020 (UTC)

That usage isn't in a vulgar way. If in the unlikely event that you are referring to the location in Judeo-Christian mythology where sinners go, you can say "hell" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blubabluba9990 (wall • contribs). Remember to sign your posts with ~~~~

Words like Stupid, Idiot and many others are mentioned in the show. Why we need to banning this? Krabs SB ^(W•C•E)12: 56, August 25, 2020 (UTC)

I heard that SpongeBob said "crap" and Squidward said "freaking" in the third movie. FireMatch ^(W•C•E) 21:44, August 26, 2020 (UTC)

@FireMatch that is an obvious lie.

@FireMatch that is an obvious lie. Blubabluba9990^M·C·E

Created concern: bruh

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There's literally a track called "Straight from Hell" used in the show. GuyBesideYou3^M·C·E 17:39, August 22, 2020 (UTC)

Not true. Never would a track with such a word be used in this show. Blubabluba9990^M·C·E

Uh-huh. https://spongebob.fandom.com/wiki/Straight_from_Hell GuyBesideYou3^M·C·E 19:24, August 22, 2020 (UTC)

Created concern: Not really sure if this is gonna work.

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I am concerned that users, especially vandals, might still use some profanity despite this proposal being passed. Kylecocjin ^(W•C•E)

Vandals break the rules anyway. Blubabluba9990^M·C·E

Again, the context isn't necessarily vulgar, as it is referring to the location in Judeo-Christian mythology where sinners go. Blubabluba9990^M·C·E

Created concern: Unessesary

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This is a little too strict and other wikis around the same level have them allowed. I feel like this is not needed Nathan Pirate (talk) 22:11, August 22, 2020 (UTC)Nathan Pirate

Then we will change it across all wikis! Who said we would stop at ESB! Blubabluba9990^M·C·E

Bluba, there's no way every wiki would do that. I know Smashpedia's admin and discuss mods don't care at all about profanity. It seems unnecessary and not every wiki would agree to this. Pǝrsøndudǝs ^{M·C·L·A·E} 23:21, August 23, 2020 (UTC)

< I'm with Persondudes as you are taking this too far -ChipFan111 >

Created concern: < Never >

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< way too strict -ChipFan111 >

Created concern: A proposal about swear acronyms being used in chat literally passed less than 2 weeks ago.

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I know it was a little while ago but I feel like there should be at least a month gap between a proposal and a proposal against it. (yes I know chat is going away soon but still) SpongeTron D ^(W•C•E) I love SB-129

That would render this proposal invalid, wouldn't it ? --Nathan Pirate (talk) 21:44, August 24, 2020 (UTC)Nathan Pirate

< Well it should ChipFan111 ^m·b·c·e 22:59, August 24, 2020 (UTC) >

Well, I wonder why it's not closed yet. Maybe we need admin attention ? --Nathan Pirate (talk) 21:43, August 26, 2020 (UTC)Nathan Pirate

Created concern: expression

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in my opinion, profanity gives us the means to express our more intense thoughts. i think we have just the right amount of what's allowed and what isn't. "hell" and "damn" aren't too vulgar at all. i would much rather say, "what the hell were they thinking when they wrote this episode?!" than "heck." idk, it just gives you more freedom. besides, only users that are 13+ should be here, and if they're underage and they see those words, that's on them. you can't use these specific words to insult people though. Idroppedmypen ★ 21:58, August 26, 2020 (UTC)

I agree with pen as I only use profanity when I am expressing something as profanity is good for expressing stuff and plus I use profanity to let off anger ChipFan111 ^m·b·c·e 01:28, August 27, 2020 (UTC)

I would rather you use terms used in the show, such as What in the name of davy jones' locker instead of what the h**l. Blubabluba9990^M·C·E

Created concern: Extra burden on admins

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It's already annoying enough for administrators to warn users for saying stuff like the f word or the s word (which should be allowed because they don't actually harm anyone aside for kids looking at the wiki but YouTube allows swears in comment sections even though lots of kids use it.)

Preventing more very harmless words from being said would just mean that administrators would have to be on a further lookout for users saying stuff like hell or damn, which is annoying and stupid. 9/17 ^(W•C•E) 14:44, August 27, 2020 (UTC)

Yeah. Plus,the sixth concern would render this proposal invalid. --Nathan Pirate (talk) 21:23, August 27, 2020 (UTC)Nathan Pirate

Created concern: my say in this and yes I actually create a long rant this time

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We don't need to ban profanity as are all 13+ so we can handle it and yes underaged people exist but the only people that is getting harmed from swears are some of those underaged people trying to make a FANDOM account, as some can handle swears, and some can't but we shouldn't ban profanity to appease the underage and yes I know that you are banning profanity for a different reason but anyways I believe that we should be able to swear also because so we can freely express ourselves and it can be used to take off our anger as I do that but still Spongebob has said stuff on the same level as damn, hell and crap and also it'll be more work for admins as they have to warn/ban more users for using profanity as they have enough work from banning people using actual swears like the f word and finally this proposal contradicts the proposal to let people say swear acronyms in chat so some might say this is invalid but some might say it is not invalid but whatever and due to these many reasons, I am opposing this and it won't bring any pros only cons, alright rant over ChipFan111 ^m·b·c·e 00:11, August 28, 2020 (UTC)

Per Chip. And we already have rules against being rude, so that's pretty much it. Anyway, this proposal reaches voting stage tommorrow. We'll see then. --Nathan Pirate (talk) 21:51, August 28, 2020 (UTC)Nathan Pirate
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