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Open Convention Discussion
The following is an ongoing convention discussion. Please feel free to voice your opinion, but be sure to follow the rules. You can use any of the following prior to your comments to show your opinion. {{Support}} • {{Neutral}} • {{Oppose}} |
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Instructions
This page is the voting stage of this discussion: "Fundamental issues - forum games."
With all concerns from the concern stage of this discussion having been resolved and taken into account, the proposal located in the "Proposal" section above has been created and moved to voting. To join the voting, you simply use buttons located in the "Voting" section of this page and fill the resulting page.
Have a happy voting!
Proposal
After much deliberation, the following is a proposed new article to the ESB bylaws, in order to prevent spam and the massive amount of activity unrelated to content building in recent changes. There has been barely any rules regarding games, but now that it has become out of control, the administration has found it necessary to address this.
Article #. Games
- A. The following games are not allowed in any form, whether it is forums or discussions. All such games will be immediately removed.
- 1. Games requiring the involvement of a certain user.
- 2. Games involving counting to a particular number, whether or not there is an interruption that would reset the counter.
- 3. Games that follow the format "Post X before someone posts Y."
- 4. Games relating to a function of running the wiki, which includes, but is not limited to banning users.
- B. The following games are allowed on Discussions, but not the Forum.
- 1. True or False
- 2. Never Ending Story
- 3. Describe the Picture Above You, but images must be related to SpongeBob SquarePants.
- C. Hurt and Heals
- 1. Hurt and Heals are allowed on the Forum.
- [move other Hurt and Heals policies here and number accordingly]
- D. The administration reserves the right to remove new games or request they be moved to Discussions.
Voting ends Monday, January 21, 2019 at 12:15 p.m., eastern time. — AMK152 (Wall • Contrib) 17:13, January 14, 2019 (UTC)
Voting
Extremely Strong Support - these rules are way overdue and would bring back focus to building the knowledge base, the goal of this wiki. — AMK152 (Wall • Contrib) 17:13, January 14, 2019 (UTC)
- Strong Support - Anthony2306 (W•C•L•E) 17:17, January 14, 2019 (UTC)
Oppose - Sorry but it does not seem a good idea, above all, because all the games in the discussions and Hurt and Heals in the forum ?, seriously, I do not see what the difference, and bottom, the H & Hs are more active than the other games in the forums, so it would not change anything in the wiki activity, and besides, the games, you call them discussions ?, they're better as forum threads, so NO. A Wikia Contributor ITALIAN's return (M•C•E)
Oppose - Sorry but it does not seem a good idea, above all, because all the games in the discussions and Hurt and Heals in the forum ?, seriously, I do not see what the difference, and bottom, the H & Hs are more active than the other games in the forums, so it would not change anything in the wiki activity, and besides, the games, you call them discussions ?, they're better as forum threads, so NO. 
- Support - ChickenkrispiesW C E 17:34, January 14, 2019 (UTC)
- Extremely Strong Support - Figmeister (W•C•E) 17:44, January 14, 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose - I agree with some of what has been stipulated, but there's still some kinks that I think are being overlooked because some people complain about the activity feed being clogged up. All of A seems fine. Except for A4. B seems fine, if we ever get discussions and start using them (once FANDOM decides to ruin Forums and everything else, I'm out). C seems redundant, because when was the last Hurt and Heal you played in? I mean really. I haven't seen one in a while, and I think we've all worn the crap out of Hurt and Heals. They're good, but we've killed them. Part D leaves a back door open that, in the event the Administration gets triggered by a game, they can just kill it. FANDOM is about being a knowledge base for SpongeBob, which we have already achieved. Games are a good way to help maintain social relationships between users to maintain a strong editing environment. These rules tighten the ship, but don't actually help keep the idea of games intact. You're melting the brains, not shooting them out. It's having a ton of money in the bank, but you can't access it. I dunno. Tan Ham Man 18:07,1/14/2019
- Neutral - I don't really like Part A but B, C, and D makes sense. Actiondude2 (M•C•U•E)
Neutral - I don't really like Part A but B, C, and D makes sense. - Extremely Strong Support - TheKorraFanatic (Talk Page) (Contributions) (Guestbook) 18:30, January 14, 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose - Although I don't quite like the "describe the blahblahbla but only SBSP images" idea, the images used in these games should not be deleted so that it doesn't break the games... Lcsmxd - Sharkist 18:50, January 14, 2019 (UTC)
- Support - 100% support. Many of the games will still be kept on Discussions so users can still play them and Hurt and Heals are remaining on the forums. It detracts from the editing experience when you can't view recent changes easily with the amount of game edits on there. Here, we have the best of both worlds. Keeping many of the games, but making recent changes less cluttered. :) --Spongebob456 talk 19:17, January 14, 2019 (UTC)
- Support - Expert at
- Neutral - A, D, and C make sense (mostly since not many of us play hurt and heals anymore), but I’m still torn about the entire B section just being allowed on the Discussions only. Then again, I’ve never used the Discussions and I am still not too familiar with it, so I have decided to stay somewhere in the middle for now. •кσσℓкιттү <мεssαgε ωαℓℓ> (=^ ◡ ^=)• 20:20, January 14, 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose - I do not like this idea and it's easy to tell why, sorry SuperJoeyBros9 (talk) 20:21, January 14, 2019 (UTC)
- Extremely Strong Support - Per AMK. trevorontario w c clickme
- Oppose - Per ITALIAN and Tanhamman. I agree with A and D, but not so much the others. --CheeseCrocker (talk) 22:02, January 14, 2019 (UTC)
- Reply - Well actually I don't really agree with A4, but I'm fine with it. --CheeseCrocker (talk) 22:45, January 14, 2019 (UTC)
Reply - Well actually I don't really agree with A4, but I'm fine with it. --- Oppose - Per CheeseCrocker, I agree with only D though. Koopsers Joopsers (M•C•U•E)
- Oppose - per sharkist -Morgan Gam
- Oppose - Games aren't really "discussions" honestly. I like them better on the forum. --Demigod brendan (talk) 22:40, January 14, 2019 (UTC)
- Extremely Strong Oppose - No. This physically pains me.
- Extremely Strong Support - Definitely necessary as forums are being replaced somewhat anyway and this floods the recent activity for any issues that may potentially occur. The Ninja5 Empire (Message Wall) 00:04, January 15, 2019 (UTC)
- Support - We have another wiki to move these games anyway. The most expensive boss, Alex.sapre (talk) 00:12, January 15, 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose - I see no point in any of this. Hurt and Heals are not as popular as the other games, and forums are far more efficient than Discussions. It would be a pity to close all our old game threads and could cause others to lose interest in the wiki. I believe that DTPAY should stay as is, and be allowed on Forums, along with True or False and Never Ending Story and Ban That User Above You. This is because these games have a long history on forums, and things would become really disorganized, in addition to off-discussions wiki activity probably dying, if this were the case. I also agree with others reasons for opposing. Chase McFly (Message Wall) (Contributions)
- Oppose - Let the kids have their fun. It's a wiki about SpongeBob, not about the Holocaust. Why does everything have to be so serious all the time? ~JCM 02:56, January 15, 2019 (UTC)
- Reply - Was comparing it to the Holocaust, one of the greatest human tragedies of all time, really necessary, especially on a SpongeBob Wiki? The Ninja5 Empire (Message Wall) 02:58, January 15, 2019 (UTC)
- Reply - You guys are getting messed up. He was comparing it to a holocaust WIKI, not the actual thing. --CheeseCrocker (talk) 03:06, January 15, 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose - SpongeBot678 (M•C•E) 17:59, January 15, 2019 (UTC)
- Comment - I still want to say that describe the image posted above should commit to all images, even non-SpongeBob images, as it is still the off-topic forums. I have no stance until then.
BF10OrdersTipsAttendenceLogs 18:08, January 15, 2019 (UTC)
Comment - I still want to say that describe the image posted above should commit to all images, even non-SpongeBob images, as it is still the off-topic forums. I have no stance until then.