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Date Resolved: May 17, 2018
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This page is the voting stage of this discussion: "Finalizing Bylaws."
With all concerns from the concern stage of this discussion having been resolved and taken into account, the proposal located in the "Proposal" section above has been created and moved to voting. To join the voting, you simply use buttons located in the "Voting" section of this page and fill the resulting page.
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Proposal
Reference: ESB:Provisional bylaws
Voting
Amendment 1 - On Removing Votes
From Article VIII: Voting
C. Any user removing votes from their own promotion request or user of the month nomination will have their entire request or nomination invalidated. The use is then prohibited from making such a request for any position for thirty (30) sixty (60) days and ineligible for such a nomination for six (6)three (3) months.
Voting ends May 16, 2018 at 2:15 p.m. eastern. — AMK152 (Wall • Contrib) 12:00, May 11, 2018 (UTC)
Amendment 1 - Vote Here
Vote here to support, oppose, or be neutral.
- Neutral - removing votes is a serious consequence, so I don't know. — AMK152 (Wall • Contrib) 18:13, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Neutral leaning toward Support - Figmeister (W•C•E) 18:15, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose - --Spongebob456 talk 19:15, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose - TheKorraFanatic (Talk Page) (Contributions) (Guestbook)
- Extremely Strong Support - Unless it is on accident, I think ya'll fail to realize that removing votes is a serious offense and is basically another way of trying to make neutrals or opposes invalid. RedBomb1 (M•C•E) 20:27, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Support - per Red FlyingDutchmen (M•C•E) 22:26, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Neutral - (Contact • Contrib) 21:40, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Neutral - ѕqυι∂∂ℓєωαя∂ ❮мεssαgε ωαℓℓ ● cσηтяιвυтισηs ● ε∂ιтcσυηт❯ 23:40, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Neutral - •кσσℓкιттү <мεssαgε ωαℓℓ> (=^ ◡ ^=)• 23:49, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
Amendment 2 - On amending rules/bylaws/policies
Article XVI: Amendment of bylaws rules
- A. Bylaws (ESB:Bylaws)
A.1. The bylaws shall only be amended during the annual convention, which shall occur starting on July 15 of each year and ending when business is concluded.B.2. The bylaws may be amended outside of the annual convention period if any such amendment is submitted to the bureaucrats and a majority of bureaucrats agree that such a discussion should occur.C.3. All amendments to the bylaws require a 70% majority in favor of the amendment, not including neutral votes.
- B. Policies (ESB:Policies)
- 1. The policies shall be amended at any time during the year.
- 2. All proposed policy changes must contain the exact text to change, using the {{PolicyProposalBegin}} / {{PolicyProposalEnd}} templates, inserting new language in bold, and striking out language proposed to be removed. Any policy proposal that does not contain the language to be changed by the time the voting stage is reached, it will be closed as invalid.
Amendment 2 - Vote Here
Vote here to support, oppose, or be neutral.
- Support - — AMK152 (Wall • Contrib) 18:13, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Support - Figmeister (W•C•E) 18:16, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Support - --Spongebob456 talk 19:15, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Support - TheKorraFanatic (Talk Page) (Contributions) (Guestbook)
- Support - RedBomb1 (M•C•E) 20:27, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Support - FlyingDutchmen (M•C•E) 20:28, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Support - (Contact • Contrib) 21:41, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Support - ѕqυι∂∂ℓєωαя∂ ❮мεssαgε ωαℓℓ ● cσηтяιвυтισηs ● ε∂ιтcσυηт❯ 23:40, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Support - •кσσℓкιттү <мεssαgε ωαℓℓ> (=^ ◡ ^=)• 23:49, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
Amendment 3 - Promotion policies grammar
From Article X: Promotions
- A. Application process
- 7. Invalid requests. A request is deemed invalid if one of the following is true, and may be closed accordingly.
- c. Any user
thatwho receives a valid block while having a pending promotion request. The user will be prohibited from making any request for thirty (30) days, starting the time their block ends. Any bureaucrat can waive this rule by supporting the request.
- c. Any user
Amendment 3 - Vote Here
Vote here to support, oppose, or be neutral.
- Support - — AMK152 (Wall • Contrib) 18:14, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Support - Figmeister (W•C•E) 18:16, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Support - --Spongebob456 talk 19:15, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Support - TheKorraFanatic (Talk Page) (Contributions) (Guestbook)
- Support - Humans are not inanimate. RedBomb1 (M•C•E) 20:27, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Support - FlyingDutchmen (M•C•E) 20:28, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Support - (Contact • Contrib) 21:42, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Support - why does this even need a vote? we should be able to make minor grammar corrections at any time. ѕqυι∂∂ℓєωαя∂ ❮мεssαgε ωαℓℓ ● cσηтяιвυтισηs ● ε∂ιтcσυηт❯ 23:40, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Support - •кσσℓкιттү <мεssαgε ωαℓℓ> (=^ ◡ ^=)• 23:49, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
Amendment 4 - Global blocks
- B. Eligibility
- 2. All positions
- c. The user must have a clean block record for at least three (3) months, not counting invalid or global blocks. The only exception to the latter case if if the user got globalled for an event that happened on ESB.
Amendment 4 - Vote Here
Vote here to support, oppose, or be neutral.
- Neutral - I'm not sure at the moment. — AMK152 (Wall • Contrib) 18:15, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Extremely Strong Oppose - Global blocks are more serious than local blocks. Just because they don't appear in the block log doesn't mean we can just ignore them. Figmeister (W•C•E) 18:18, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose - --Spongebob456 talk 19:15, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Extremely Strong Oppose - TheKorraFanatic (Talk Page) (Contributions) (Guestbook)
- Vehemently Strong Support - I suggest ya'll take a step back and take what I said in the stage into consideration. I'm tired of this wiki treating its older demographic like babies with strict rules like this. SpongeBob is not just for kids, so this wiki shouldn't treat me like one. Global blocks should not count if the user didn't get globalled for somethin' they did here on ESB; yah I get it, a global block is more serious than a local block and will even prevent you from editing on this wiki, but if the global block ain't appear in ya block log, then it's fine so long as the offense that lead you to be globalled didn't happen on ESB. RedBomb1 (M•C•E) 20:27, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Comment - You only want this rule passed because you want more user rights. Global blocks matter and are very serious, they reflect more about a user than a local block does. TheKorraFanatic (Talk Page) (Contributions) (Guestbook)
- Comment - Korra, that is rude of you to make such assumptions like that. I could not even think about supporting someone in a social position with that attitude and conclusion jumping. As a social user you should be messaging people more professionally. I'm voting remove for your moderaror position tomorrow if you're gonna have such attitude. That aside, bringing up off-wiki drama is against our policy and global blocks mattering brings up issues from outside of ESB, which is absolutely awful and uncalled for to say the least. When Philly got gblocked last year, a lot of people turned against supporting him just because of something that happened outside of ESB, which raises a lot of unneeded drama. RedBomb1 (M•C•E) 23:11, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Comment - You only want this rule passed because you want more user rights. Global blocks matter and are very serious, they reflect more about a user than a local block does. TheKorraFanatic (Talk Page) (Contributions) (Guestbook)
- Neutral - FlyingDutchmen (M•C•E) 20:28, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Extremely Strong Oppose - Absolutely not.
(Contact • Contrib) 21:43, May 9, 2018 (UTC) - Extremely Strong Support - DanzxvFan8275 (M•C•U•E) 22:25, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose - a global block comes from violating fandom's terms of use, which is much more serious than violating any given wiki's local policy. ѕqυι∂∂ℓєωαя∂ ❮мεssαgε ωαℓℓ ● cσηтяιвυтισηs ● ε∂ιтcσυηт❯ 23:40, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose - Per above. Global blocks are more serious, as opposed to local wiki blocks. •кσσℓкιттү <мεssαgε ωαℓℓ> (=^ ◡ ^=)• 23:49, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
Amendment 5 - Returning retired/resigned users
- C. Repromotions
- 2. If a retired or resigned user returns to ESB, they cannot be promoted to any position until
three (3) monthsone (1) month following the announcement of their return or decision not to retire or resign.
- 2. If a retired or resigned user returns to ESB, they cannot be promoted to any position until
Amendment 5 - Vote Here
Vote here to support, oppose, or be neutral.
- Extremely Strong Oppose - absolutely not. If someone retires or resigns, why are they coming back for a promotion in a short period of time? — AMK152 (Wall • Contrib) 18:15, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose - Per AMK. Figmeister (W•C•E) 18:19, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose - --Spongebob456 talk 19:15, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose - TheKorraFanatic (Talk Page) (Contributions) (Guestbook)
- Extremely Strong Support - Qwerty once made a proposal for this change back in July 2017 and it passed, so what the heck happened? Plus, you have to be here for at least one month to request rollback, assistant or mod, bruh. RedBomb1 (M•C•E) 20:27, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Weak Oppose - Per AMK FlyingDutchmen (M•C•E) 20:28, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Extremely Strong Oppose - Per AMK. (Contact • Contrib) 21:44, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Support - DanzxvFan8275 (M•C•U•E) 22:27, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose - this is to deter users from making impulsive decisions regarding retirement. users who retire on impulse and immediately regret it should have to face the consequences for failing to think their decision through. ѕqυι∂∂ℓєωαя∂ ❮мεssαgε ωαℓℓ ● cσηтяιвυтισηs ● ε∂ιтcσυηт❯ 23:40, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose - •кσσℓкιттү <мεssαgε ωαℓℓ> (=^ ◡ ^=)• 23:49, May 9, 2018 (UTC)