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Date Resolved: March 20, 2018
Result: Moved to voting.
This convention discussion concerns the following topic: "Bylaws discussion - Real-life object pages."
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I know we already had this proposal before, but most people opposed without explanation just because it was created by a troll. Well, maybe this time, if it were remade and not proposed by a troll, people would provide explanation as to why they think it's a bad idea.
Anyways, I think that pages about objects that already exist in real life should not be notable enough for an article. Just because they have played a major role in an episode does not mean they are notable to have an article, the reason being that they already exist in real life and did not originate in the SpongeBob SquarePants universe. I have created a lot of these pages, but looking back upon it, I think that it is silly.
Just because most of the pages are not stubs and some of these real-world objects actually have played roles in the show does not mean there should be pages on these topics. This is borderline a violation of the "Don't create pages on a bunch of random things that have no relevance to SpongeBob. We are not Wikipedia." rule in the Content policy, even if the information provided pertains to the objects' role in the series.
Granted, I could just make Requests for Deletions for them, but it would be repetitive and meaningless using the same exact rational. Plus, this is proposing a new policy in regards to these types of pages, so simple RfDs wouldn't be enough.
I stated above as to why I do not think that real-world objects are not notable to have an article, but aside from that I would also like to add that I've been on other wikis and they don't have pages for things that already exist in real life, so I don't know why ESB is such a wiki to have insignificant pages like this. These topics are taken more seriously than they actually should be.
If you were to go on another wiki about another piece of media and create a page for something shown in the series that already exists in real life, an admin or content mod would most likely delete it and label it as insignificant. I think we as ESB should follow suit from here on.
Plus, even if these types of articles do sort of serve a purpose since these objects have appeared in memorable scenes and some people may want to know what episode they appeared in, I still don't think that it's important for such pages to exist; if people really wanted to know what episodes these objects apoear in, then they can just type the keywords in the wiki's search bar and they will most likely find out from the transcripts.
Also, there may be a lot of pages that link to these pages, but the links could easily be removed automatically by bot accounts.
In conclusion, I think that pages on objects should be limited to in-universe brands rather than things that already exist IRL. However, as Epxert said, I think that the only exceptions to this rule should be the pages Spatula, Bubbles, and Money since those objects have enough prominence throughout the series to warrant their owncategories and are recognizable objects associated with certain characters throughout (Mr. Krabs loves money, there have been episodes about SpongeBob's obsession with his spatula, and bubble blowing is one of SB and Pat's hobbies).
Yes, I get it, it might be a waste of mainspace and remove people's work from the database, but we have had more drastic changes before. Plus, even so, we would still have a lot more of pages left on the wiki; this proposal passing would only get rid of a moderate amount of them. RedBomb1(M•C•E) 05:01, February 26, 2018 (UTC)
Note: Proposal moved to convention area.
Created subtopic: Does this include merchandising?
Simple question since merchandise are real world objects too, as well, I would say perhaps re-word what you said regarding them being pointless. Xenos001 (talk)
No, out-of-universe merchandising does not count. This proposal is referring to things that already exist in real life and their portrayal within the SpongeBob SquarePants universe. RedBomb1(M•C•E) 11:00, February 26, 2018 (UTC)
I do not agree with this. Those objects appeared on the show, and deserve to have its on articles. We have tons of silly and unnecessary articles about SpongeBob, but that's what makes this Wiki special, it basically has every, but I mean everything about SpongeBob! It shows that this Wiki is really ALL about SpongeBob. FlyingDutchmen (M•C•E) 15:49, February 28, 2018 (UTC)
I disagree, Dutchmen. There are a lot of things that have appeared in the show, but aren't worthy of their own articles. RedBomb1(M•C•E) 02:47, March 1, 2018 (UTC)
I think there should be exceptions, like bubbles and money, since they have major roles in the series. We should keep ones that have major roles in the series, IMO. The Awesome...Expert at Terraria!MBCE
That could sound right to me. I ethier do major roles. PictureField55 (talk) 04:34, March 16, 2018 (UTC)
Alternatively, this could be done on a case-by-case basis through the deletion process. — AMK152 (Wall • Contrib) 12:07, March 16, 2018 (UTC)