ESB:Block reviews/Jensonk/4

	Block reviews archive The following block review has been closed. The page has been protected and now serves as an archive. Do not edit this page. User requesting review: Jensonk Date discussion closed: May 6, 2018 Result of discussion: Invalid; less than 6 months have passed since previous failed block review.

Jensonk (wall • contribs • 88,839)

Information	Details
Blocking administrator	Spongebob456
Length of block	infinite
Reason for block	Constant disruption over a period of 3 years, as seen with his colourful block record. Been gblocked recently too. Ignores warnings.
User starting review	RedBomb1
Reason for review	It has been exactly 6 months after Jensonk got imdeffed, making this review valid this time. Anyways, I think that Jensonk deserves a second chance because he really cared about the wiki and offered us many constructive edits and plus he had been here for a few years. I think that his 6-month block has really taught him a lesson and he will not do anything bad if he gets unblocked.  RedBomb1 (M•C•E)  04:27, May 5, 2018 (UTC)

Support

• Extremely Strong Support - As nominator.  RedBomb1 ^(M•C•E)  04:27, May 5, 2018 (UTC) 

Neutral

• Neutral leaning toward Oppose - What he did was pretty bad but it's not like the wiki has been that much better without him. He still has some troll tendencies even if he's not at the same level as Nintendo Bro or the other socks. I still find his suicide enabling comment very awful although to be fair, he did get a 3 month block from it. I still find the infinite block to be excessive but at the same time, I'm going to need some proof if he actually learned his lesson. Ɔ • W • blɿoWɘʜTxoЯɘƨɘɘʜƆ 06:08, May 5, 2018 (UTC)
• Neutral leaning toward Oppose - He's been blocked for half a year so far and I agree with Cheesy with some parts. However, per previous discussions, I agree we should have this kind of discussion after a year of his original block. Also, I'm voting neutral as I believe he wants to return to make productive contributions rather than disrupt the community based on all the tasks he gives me on Twitter. But he's done so much things in the past that I don't even know what to say anymore.
  (Contact • Contrib) 12:31, May 5, 2018 (UTC)

Oppose

• Extremely Strong Oppose - I really don’t give a crap about how long he’s blocked and stuff like that. He’s never going to learn from his mistakes. And no, this wouldn’t be his second chance, it would be much more than that.  DanzxvFan8275 (M•C•U•E)  12:23, May 5, 2018 (UTC) 
• Extremely Strong Oppose - he has been given so many chances and he has learned nothing. ѕqυι∂∂ℓєωαя∂ ^{❮мεssαgε ωαℓℓ ● cσηтяιвυтισηs ● ε∂ιтcσυηт❯ 12:44, May 5, 2018 (UTC)}

• Comment - Although Jensonk may bully people, people have bullied him before. I once saw a user reply to one of his comments on a SpongeBob Comics page saying "Jensonk, how old are you?? XD" If people aren't going to be nice to Jensonk, then why should he be nice to them? Not to mention that admins never took action against that comment.  RedBomb1 ^(M•C•E)  20:50, May 5, 2018 (UTC) 

• Extremely Strong Oppose - are you kidding me? he will never learn - he got like 3,327 chances and he's still doing the same crap (outside of fandom of course) he's in trouble for. do you owe him money or something? because i can't believe you could be this biased.  Chuck123456 ^(M•C•E)  13:04, May 5, 2018 (UTC) 
• Oppose - I’m sorry but Jensonk has been given chance after chance after chance! He’s not gonna learn crap.  Tyler730 ^(M•C•E)  13:08, May 5, 2018 (UTC) 
• Extremely Strong Oppose - Per everyone. Just because he made good edits doesn't mean he can slide on his bad behavior. TheKorraFanatic ^{(Talk Page) (Contributions) (Guestbook)}
• Oppose - We're not unblocking trolls. --Spongebob456 ^talk 15:27, May 5, 2018 (UTC)
• Extremely Strong Oppose - No way.  Figmeister ^(W•C•E)  15:32, May 5, 2018 (UTC) 
• Oppose - Per everyone•

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• Oppose - Per above. •кσσℓкιттү <мεssαgε ωαℓℓ> (=^ ◡ ^=)• 15:51, May 5, 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose - Yeah, he's not going to change even if thinking 6 months is somehow long enough to make someone who's had so many repeat offenses behave differentlyTan Ham Man 15:57,5/5/2018 
• Extremely Strong Oppose - Per above Anthony2306 16:11, May 5, 2018 (UTC)
• Extremely Strong Oppose - Wow, I never have seen such colorful block history! That means he probably won't learn.
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• Oppose - For the above reasons. --Bob Hartington (talk) 18:21, May 5, 2018 (UTC)
• Strong Oppose - I wasn't too sure earlier on what I should vote so I decided to look at his contributions on the dates of his block record. I found out that the rude comments that I knew about turned to be much more than what I expected. Also: "I think that his 6-month block has really taught him a lesson and he will not do anything bad if he gets unblocked." I wonder why so many short blocks didn't teach him a lesson then? He's been blocked nearly 30 times! Looks like those 30 blocks didn't teach him a lesson. (Contact • Contrib) 20:17, May 5, 2018 (UTC)
• Extremely Strong Oppose - No means no. This is the fourth block review he's had and I'm still opposing it. The Ninja5 Empire (Message Wall) 02:15, May 6, 2018 (UTC)

Comments

• Comment - Okay, ya'll need to take a step back and think over why Jensonk acts this way. Although he has done some extremely questionable things before, such as telling cookie to commit suicide and saying that a hacker needs to have a heart attack, I find most of his actions to be defendable. Here is why:

1. Even though Jensonk may seem like a bully to people, people have bullied him before he even turned bad. One user once told him "How are old you Jensonk?? XD" If people aren't gonna be nice to Jensonk, then why should he nice to them? On that basis, I think that his good edits and high edit count excuse his aborrent behavior.
2. He is more often nice than not; he has done more good than bad, as demonstrated by his high edit count and 3 years of being here despite bad behavior.
3. His actions outside of FANDOM should not be a matter of concern when taking his personality into account; what he does here at ESB is all that matters.
4. I'm pretty sure the indefinite block taught him his lesson and that he knows now that consequences will follow if he exhibits terrible attitude.
5. The "borrowing" comment he made was just a reference to an episode. Sure, that may not have been a good time to make such a joke, but this is a SpongeBob wiki for crying out loud, so a comment like that should have been expected. Plus, a SpongeBob wiki is not such a good place to discuss serious topics; little kids visit this wiki and they are unlikely to understand nor care about the discussion of serious topics; I didn't know nor care about much serious topics until I was 10 and entered puberty; whenever people discussed serious topics it went over my head and the same things happens whenever my little brother hears my parents talk aboout serious topics when they have guests over at our house. Plus, SpongeBob doesn't have a need to reference serious topics because it's a goofy and silly comedy, so I don't see why a wiki about it should either; the fact that mostly teenagers go on this wiki is an invalid excuse as kids can also view this stuff and even register but chose a fake birthday to bypass the COPPA restrictions.
6. In addition to above, when he said "You weren't stealing that candy, you were borrowing it. I heard them get away with that excuse in an episode before," that is actually true and a valid excuse to use in real life. Whenever caught in such acts, young people can use the "I saw this on a cartoon" excuse and blame the creators for putting such bad morals in their shows for the target demographic (children and adolescents) to emulate (e.g. the borrowing moral in "Life of Crime"). Not Jensonk's fault that TV has such bad morals in their programming that they're encouraging the youth to emulate.
7. It's possible that he thinks that being popular means he can do whatever he wants and look over people. As awful as that may sound, today's society is sort of encouraging popularity and immense achievement as an excuse to do whatever you want; the entertainment industry is teaching that moral to children with celebrities who have done messed up things and are famous for doing nothing. Not Jensonk's fault that he has no control over society and the entertainment industry's questionable lessons. I know tons of people in real life who use this as a defense for their actions and go Scot-free.
8. Tying into the previous dispute, another possibility is that Jensonk is gullible enough to believe that if a high-authority figure, fully grown adult, or a famous person with a verified badge and over 100 million followers on Twitter, does or says something questionable, then he automatically believes it is okay for him to emulate. I personally don't blame him; that actually seems like a definitive valid excuse for one's actions. Additionally, even if Jensonk does seem ableist, racist, sexist, homophobic, or a bigot in general (as seen with his many YouTube comments), I honestly think that ever since November 2016, it doesn't matter since the current president of the United States of America, an extremely authorative position in which one has control of a country being in a certain state of being, is racist, ableist, homophobic etc and is the most famous living person on the planet. No doubt that this is a valid defense for Jensonk's actions. I know many people in real life who use famous people with 100 million social media followers or the current president saying questionable things and getting away with it as a defense for their actions. Many of my IRL friends and I sometimes use it as a defense for my actions; back when I got globalled, I contacted FANDOM and negotiated with them that famous people are role models to the world and that if people in fame have used slurs and gotten away with it, then the racial comment I made on SBFW was nothing to worry about.

With all that being said, aside from the death threats he made twice, I think Jensonk is innocent and his actions are defendable.  RedBomb1 ^(M•C•E)  20:50, May 5, 2018 (UTC) 

• Comment - Is there any actual proof that he's changed his ways? If not, I don't see any reason to support if the last reviews failed. Ɔ • W • blɿoWɘʜTxoЯɘƨɘɘʜƆ 20:58, May 5, 2018 (UTC)